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Today, you get to learn about how I got BUSTED! Getting a property maintenance violation can be frustrating when you are trying to convert to low maintenance landscaping. Here’s what to do.
- Our story
- Violations can be emotional and stressful
- Frustrating
- Infuriating
- Embarrassing
- Difficult
- Want to retaliate
- How to deal with one
- Stay calm
- Always context behind event – try not to use as an excuse
- Investigate source of violation
- Sometimes a deeper issue
- Call issuing authority
- Request details
- Understand source of violation
- Complaint
- compliance authority
- Request contact if complaint
- Be cordial, respectful, professional
- The more positive and respectful
- Less friction with authority, complainant in future
- Better chance of resolution
- Share with authority that you are regretful of the inconvenience
- Not direct apology but regret for the extra time and effort
- Confirm that you will resolve the issue ASAP
- The more positive and respectful
- What to do long term to avoid violations
- Design to reduce maintenance
- Episode 2, 3 – low maintenance landscaping basics
- Episode 21 – easy landscaping for HOAs and Codes
- Consulting
- Design to reduce maintenance
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[Music]what’s up and welcome to episode 22 of
the easy living yards podcast thanks for
tuning in today guys I’ve got a great
episode here today as well I’ll be
honest it’s not my favorite topic but
with that you know it’s also a great
episode because it’s very very important
actually so while it may not be the
funnest topic it’s an important topic
and we all need to make sure we’re aware
of what to do in difficult situations
and that’s what we’re talking about
today is dealing with violations now
hopefully this is something you’ll never
have to deal with but the reality is
violations are more and more common with
more and more people today for for
smaller and smaller minutiae and the the
reality is it’s a difficult situation we
want to deal with it the best way we can
to get the best outcome possible so
that’s what we’re talking about today is
is how do we deal with this the best way
we can and get the best outcome okay and
that’s not just for you – that’s that’s
for you and your neighborhood how do we
get the best outcome okay alright I
wanted to get that out there – okay so
dealing with violations this can really
be you know an emotional topic if it’s
something you’re dealing with especially
now so if you come by if you just found
this episode you have no idea who I am
right well first of all I’m a super cool
guy I love landscapes I love staring at
plants and I’m super stoked to share my
knowledge with you okay so that’s all
true stuff but what we’re talking about
here on the aesthetic ecosystems podcast
is is saving time in your landscape on
the things that you don’t need to be
spending time on so you can have more
time to do what’s important in your life
okay and so violations can be a
difficult piece to handle
and it can really negatively affect our
our lifestyle because it can nave
negatively affect our neighbors
relationships and so the people that we
see day in and day out living next to us
we have to live next to them so if if
you’re not having a good harmonious
relationship in your neighborhood it can
really negatively affect your life and
so we’re gonna try and keep things as
positive as possible where we live and
sometimes you know that’s very difficult
and violations are one piece of that for
sure it’s a very tough piece of that so
we want to figure out how to deal with
these in the best way possible to get
the most positive outcome for ourselves
and for our neighbors so we can reduce
this happening in the future as well
okay now this actually touches near and
dear to me because I’ve had a
maintenance violation from my next-door
neighbor and and let me tell you this
can be very difficult very stressful so
I want to share with you my story on
dealing with a violation the the
emotions that I experienced and and how
you can hopefully work through this if
you ever have to deal with this and get
the best outcome possible and maybe not
do some of the things I felt like I
wanted to do and some of the things I
did actually do it while dealing with
this situation so we want to get the
best outcome possible and that’s not to
say this is an easy process but we want
to get the best long-term outcome and so
for my story okay I about let’s see this
was about seven months ago I received a
maintenance violation on our property
for not maintaining my yard up to the
the township codes standard so the
township code has some zoning
regulations written in a property a
property maintenance code and and it’s
actually written very similarly to what
you would have in a homeowner’s
association so we actually moved into
this Township thinking that we
specifically didn’t want to live in an
HOA
because we didn’t want to have to worry
about the day-to-day upkeep of our
appearance of our property especially
while we’re dealing with proper a piece
of property that required a lot of work
so we were looking at a lot of houses
that that needed a lot of repair so we
could actually afford a slightly bigger
house than we could otherwise afford
with the price range we were looking in
with our current lifestyle planning on
having starting a family so when we when
we purchased our house we purchased this
house it was in a horrible horrible
shape and the landscape was just as bad
so so the interior of the house to see
you guys know it was something you could
hardly walk into because just the stench
was so strong there there were a lot of
cats that lived in the house they just
tore the place apart that the people
didn’t take care of it it was it was
just a difficult situation to help the
family had a lot of problems and and
unfortunately the house suffered and the
landscape suffered so the interior of
the house was horribly difficult to live
in and it needed triage it needed
immediate help and the landscape also
needed help as well but it had to take a
backseat to our to our immediate living
space and so free just for your
awareness the landscape situation even
when we were looking at this place the
grass was sometimes 12 to 14 inches high
probably the the front awning of the
house had a pillar that was just missing
it just had just fallen down and so the
awning was kind of leaning it was in
horrible shape the the garden beds were
just overgrown they had these giant you
bushes that you could hardly walk down
the pathway with the backyard was even
worse there was an above-ground pool
that had been installed in some previous
years and the the slope of the ground
was altered during this installation
where where the water would basically
during a rain event would flow toward
the house and and they were when I we
bought the house there was no longer an
above-ground pool there so all that was
left was this giant
circular pit that was recessed in the
ground from about six inches on one side
to about almost two feet on the other
side and so what this happened to become
was a burn pit for the previous owners
and so you can imagine our property was
in a pretty rough state and what we did
is we kind of decided okay we got to fix
the interior of the house there’s a lot
that needs to be done the house needs to
be completely gutted before we can even
move in and then there’s a ton of work
to get it to where it’s livable and
comfortable and so we decided to focus
on the interior of the house we are
still doing that and because life
happens right and we had kids and we now
have three children in that in-between
time and with those three children of
course our time has become more and more
valuable at the same time we made a
conscious effort to get our landscape to
where it was livable it was not
miserable
to maintain it on a frequent enough
basis to not be a nuisance and to kind
of leave it go until later and so when
you guys are here in this now is that
later time period our house is still not
finished to the way we want on the
inside but it’s at least comfortable
there’s a lot of little things you know
that work me because in my perfectionist
attitude but but the reality is it’s a
pretty nice space now we’re very
thankful for the house we have it and we
do have a pillar on our front porch now
so don’t you worry and and now it’s time
to where we can begin to focus on the
exterior of the house now unfortunately
this kind of I’m kind of bringing you
through the history but now let’s
fast-forward to about this was let’s see
about October November last year so we
had our third son you know we have three
boys three young beautiful boys awesome
great fun to play with never never a bad
day of course right a little bit of
sarcasm there but uh but our third son
was born in September this past year and
and so of course it was a very busy
month and for those of you who might
live in other regions the
the summer so come late August through
the early October is kind of the the
last burst of growth for cool season
grasses and so our lawn being a hard
fescue lawn it really puts on this big
burst of growth towards the end of the
season that coincided with our third
child being born so as you can imagine
we were very busy we had a lot of tough
days just adapting to the new lifestyle
especially with our two older boys
really kind of learning how to adapt to
the new family situation and of course
the last thing we’re thinking about is
is mowing the grass right and so
coincident with this we we cut our grass
at a high level and and so when it
starts to grow even just a little bit
sometimes it can start to look a little
out of shape now when you’re cutting
your grass at this height during these
rapid growth stages you still need to
cut your grass relatively often it’s
during the lower growth stages that you
can really cut down on the frequency of
mowing
so so it we have about a month old child
two other toddlers in the house and our
neighbor decides instead of even talking
to me
decides to submit a property maintenance
violation for our house and so you can
imagine the frustration of my wife
calling me while I’m at work and and
saying hey we got this Notice of
Violation and we don’t even know why it
doesn’t have any clarity on what is the
violation it’s just a letter that was
placed on our house
and it said we had two weeks to comply
or we’re fined and that the township is
going to come in and take care of the
issue for us and we have to pay for it
so as you can imagine this was
incredibly frustrating at an incredibly
difficult time for our family as we’re
adapting to our new lifestyle with very
little sleep and so you can imagine
potentially the emotions I felt the
frustration I had and also the stress at
wondering who had the nerve to to issue
a violation against us
without even talking to us and so there
was a lot of frustration and it took us
a while to really just calm down and and
to decide how to best move forward and
so I can fast forward a few months and
to let you know that I had a very
positive interaction with the township
in talking with them understanding what
the specific violation was making sure I
rectified it and also understanding who
the individual was that had issued the
violation now in that time to the this
is potentially a much better outcome
than you may get but my my neighbor
actually came forward and and had a
really open discussion with me and
apologized for the lack of understanding
and and really worked to build a
positive relationship from what was a
very negative situation so I actually
had a very good outcome but
unfortunately we went through a very
tough part there where it was very
frustrating very stressful very
difficult nearly to the point where I
wanted to move our family out of the
house to somewhere else that’s that’s
how frustrated I was and so that’s not
what we want here again because we’re
talking about improving our lives and
while we talk mostly about improving the
amount of time we have available in our
life this is also just about living our
life to its fullest and it’s very
difficult when your neighbors are doing
something that makes you feel inadequate
or just very stressed out uncomfortable
embarrassed to live where you’re living
and so these are all and you know
important things to work on and that’s
what I want us to work through here so
that is in a nutshell my story about our
violation and how we lived through it
and now I want to share what I’ve
learned with you to really help you if
you ever have to deal with this
situation okay so let’s get into the
nuts and bolts of what you can do to
best deal with a violation now first
things first what I want to do is to
acknowledge the feelings and emotions
you may accept
uriens when you’re issued a violation so
this can be a very emotional and very
stressful time because essentially what
this is is somebody else telling you
that your space and your lifestyle is
not good enough right that’s that’s kind
of what registers in your mind that
might not be the other person’s intent
but a lot of times that’s where your
mind goes to that’s definitely where my
mind went to and so it’s it’s very
stressful so some of the other emotions
are frustration anger or it’s just
infuriating embarrassing difficult it’s
something you you may want to want to
retaliate about it right now it’s
important to acknowledge these emotions
understand where they’re coming from and
to also kind of try and when you’re
dealing with this stuff to really try
and provide a different outlet for those
emotions okay it’s hard to just suppress
them that’s not always the best thing
but to just to make sure we’re not using
this situation as our outlet for the
emotions that may have been stirred
through the situation okay so make sure
you find a healthy outlet for it before
you deal with this specific situation
okay so let’s let’s make sure we don’t
let emotion cloud our judgment or our
actions when working through dealing
with this violation okay so now how to
deal with a violation first things first
you want to try and stay calm now again
this might require that you you process
through your emotion you get out your
emotion and whatever way necessary and
healthy before you actually deal with
this violation head-on okay so do that
in the best and healthiest way you can
but during these these steps below that
I’m going to talk about make sure you
stay calm okay
so the other piece is there’s always
context behind the event try not to use
this as an excuse for the violation so
the context I gave you for ours was our
living situation we moved in our
landscape has always been in better
condition than when we purchased the
property and of course those people
hadn’t had a violation right but also
we were in a difficult stage of life
where unfortunately for us and for our
neighborhood the the lawn was one of our
least priorities we were very more
concerned about dealing with making sure
the health of our family was was good
making sure everybody was happy and
taken care of and those were that was
our priority that was the singular
priority for us right and so wow that’s
a context it’s not an excuse for for the
the condition so for me my lawn was
taller than what was supposed to be what
it was supposed to be according to the
regulations and so whether or not I had
context for it the fact of the matter
was that I was in violation of that code
okay so let’s make sure we don’t use the
context as an excuse but more for
awareness and understanding and and
hopefully we can just work through the
situation so the next piece is to
understand and investigate the source of
the violation so sometimes this is a
much deeper issue than the violation
itself and so it’s important to try and
understand why was the violation issued
and is that the real reason for the
violation or is it somebody that’s upset
with you so you know it could be a
deeper neighbor issue or somebody that
is upset with you for other reasons and
it’s important to make sure we can
rectify whatever situation is at hand
so even if we rectify the violation it
may not take care of the long-term issue
so make sure we really understand what
is the the core of the matter here is it
just the violation or is it something
deeper okay so the first step to do is
to call the issuing authority so this
may be your your local Township
zoning property maintenance officer as
it was in my case or it may be your HOA
board member
whatever the case make sure you talk to
them and understand the details of the
violation so make sure you request any
details that may be written down
it may be actual official written
document or it may be something that was
verbally communicated but either way get
as many details as you can about the
violation what is the actual violation
and then understand the source of the
violation was it a complaint was it some
sort of authority that that maintains
compliance so somebody that goes around
and checks properties what was the
actual source of the violation because
this is this can really affect whether
or not there’s a deeper issue at hand so
if if it is a complaint make sure you
also request the contacts identity this
may or may not be divulged it may or may
not be public record but it’s important
to at least ask and this isn’t for
purposes of retaliation but for purposes
of understanding and so for my township
it becomes public record when you issue
a violation and so it was public record
which means I have a right to understand
who that individual was and usually and
definitely was in my case the township
is reluctant to share that unless
directly requested so of course they
don’t want to cause further issues so
it’s important to if you would like to
understand the deeper issue you can
request the contact of the complaint
okay the next piece is during this whole
conversation make sure you are cordial
make sure you are respectful and make
sure you are professional again we’re
dealing with somebody who is an
authority here right there
their job is to enforce codes and so if
you are in violation of a code you are a
violator and so it’s important to always
maintain a position of respect cordilla
cordiality cord cord realness we’re
gonna go with respect and
professionalism okay so make sure you’re
always you know being as professional as
possible it’s not the it most likely
isn’t the person you’re talking to is
not the the person who is acting out
potentially and or trying to negatively
impact your lifestyle okay so make sure
we don’t take out our frustration on the
person we’re talking to instead they are
a source of information for us a source
of understanding for us so we can move
forward and rectify the situation okay
now what I want to say here too is the
more positive and respectful you
maintain this relationship the less
friction you have with Authority the
also the more positive and you’re
respectful you are with the the
complaintant if you end up talking with
this person
the less friction you have in the future
as well as well as the best chance for
resolution so really by being positive
and cordial and respectful you have the
end professional you have the best
chance of rectifying this situation as
well as preventing further issues in the
future because if you’re rude you’re
aggressive you’re emotional most likely
you’re going to be seen as the violator
who is not being compliant and you’re
going to have a big target place on your
property for future violations okay so
it’s actually in your best interest to
be as professional as possible in this
situation also while this is not an
apology share with the authority that
you are regretful of the inconvenience
that is caused by the situation okay so
when you have a violation placed against
you there’s a lot of paperwork that
needs to go through most likely there is
actual work that needs to be done to
issue the violation and to follow up on
it to make sure you’re being compliant
so it’s just helpful to make sure you
account for the and acknowledge I guess
that’s a better word to acknowledge that
there is work involved with this
situation and you regretful of that now
regret is not necessarily an apology so
you don’t need to certainly need to
apologize unless you feel the need to
for you know the extra time and effort
that’s been caused by this situation
okay
next make sure with this discussion with
the issuing authority that you confirm
that you will resolve this
shoot as soon as you possibly can all
right for me I actually this made me
very upset but for me to comply with our
violation as quickly as possible before
we received any sort of fine I ended up
on Halloween evening having to drive
home from work as quickly as possible to
cut our lawn cut our grass before we had
rain the next several days and before a
compliance officer was at our property
checking out things so unfortunately it
may be very inconvenient and make make
you unhappy it may make you stressed may
make you miss out on family stuff like I
did but it’s important to confirm that
you were resolved the issue as soon as
possible and then follow up by resolving
the issue okay so that’s really what I
have for how to deal with an existing
violation now let’s just spend a really
short bit on what you can do long-term
to avoid future violations so the
biggest piece here is is really just
what we’ve talked about in this episode
or in this podcast throughout each
episode what we’re talking about is is
really changing our life through
redesigning our landscapes and
redesigning how we perceive our
landscapes right so we can also design
to reduce maintenance that will reduce
the frequency or the need for violations
okay so there’s a couple episodes I
really recommend you check out if you
really want to dive into this so the
first well this is two episodes actually
as episodes two and three go over low
maintenance landscape basics okay so the
the core pieces of low maintenance
landscape design I really recommend you
check out episodes two and three I’ll
have a link in the show notes to each of
these links or each of these episodes
and also episode 20 so episode 20 was
easy landscape principles for homeowners
associations and local codes so that’s
another good one to check out in order
to avoid violations in the future so the
last piece I want to stay here with
avoiding long term violations and
redesigning your landscape is that I
offer consultation one-on-one digital
consultations and if you want some help
I can talk with you about what you need
to focus on in your landscape what
specific needs you have and what things
you can do to make the greatest impact
to avoid violations in the future to
reduce the amount of maintenance you
need to do with your landscape if that
sounds like something that’s interesting
to you you can check out easy living
yards comm slash consulting and there
you’ll find all the information you need
on whether or not you want to join up
with a consultation with me so make sure
you check out the show notes for all the
links I dropped in today’s show and with
that guys it’s a wrap for the day so
thanks for tuning in make sure you live
with passion and make tomorrow better
than today
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